When thinky thoughts attack (part1)

[sams1ra]

Hi guys,

I'm starting to watch the season again - hence the thinky thoughts.
I watched Lazarous Rising and On the Head of a Pin, and some things.... made me think (Yes, ok, eyeroll away).


In LR, Castiel thinks Dean may be able to see his true visage, to hear his true voice. This hasn't really been explored farther so far. Do you guys think it will be? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)
And I just can't get over this - I totally missed it the first time around, but when Castiel tells Dean he pulled him out of hell, and Dean answers with that sarcastic thanks, Cas gives this tiny smile and a tiny nod. ♥
Jensen is awesome. You could totally see the moment Dean remembered Hell. And I still think the screaming we hear is not his, but the screams of the people he tortured. Their screams haunt him, and it fits so well with what comes next.
LR was just made of awesome.

Next came OTHoaP.
I can't get over the special effects here - the wings! I didn't even notice the blond angel had wings the first time around, I was too busy thinking of Mary (and the White Nightgown of Doom). The wings were awesome.
And then all Sam wanted to do was help Dean because something wasn't right with Dean, and Dean tortured Alastair (and can I just say he was way less scary than when he tortured Meg?)
But here's the thing that bugs me (and no, it's not the star of David, I'm pretty sure I've done a rant about that somewhere else).
BOTH SamnDean admit something's wrong with Dean here. Both admit that he came back not quite himself, that there's something missing.
HOMG, you guys, do you think Dean lost his mojo in Hell? Will there be an episode where Castiel goes back for Dean's mojo, or that they find something else that will make him whole like the scepter of Amara in the AtGS sequel?
Something IS wrong with Dean, something IS missing. And the boys had better get it back so that Dean would stop being a wuss shadow of himself and start being a big brother again - and get Sam into rehab.
...
Do you suppose there's somewhere where you can go through detox from demon blood? *ponders*

Also?  Just for the record? I say I think Zacharaya is either one of the angels on Uriel's side (you know, the one giving the really bad angelic advice, like torturing Alastair), or whatever, but I seriously get some bad vibes from him. Yes, I know he's a total dick, I mean beside that.
 

Well, that's all for now. There'll be more when I watch more episodes. Don't say I didn't warn you...

Comments

[parisindy.livejournal.com]

rising Lazarus had to be one of my all time fav episode i just freaking adore it! though i do have an unhealthy addiction to wendigo for some reason hehe

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

I know why. It's that dirty dirty grin on Dean's face when that girl asks him if he has to ruin the moment. *sigh*
I miss s1 Dean. Hell, I miss s2 Dean, too (but not as much)

[parisindy.livejournal.com]

hehe i think to its just got some great dean whump in it.. and its just so classic... just your basic monster story :)

the grin is good to hehe

[tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com]

That's an interesting thought. Though, I gotta wonder why Alistair seemed to want Dean to get together with the rest of himself if that's what he was referring to. I think he specifically said something like, "Get the two of you back together again," and he sounded like he liked the idea quite a bit.

ETA: But then I"m pessimistic, because I really hate either of the boys having powers at all.

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

I don't think it'll be some sort of speshul power. I just think Sam's right. Part of Dean didn't make it out of Hell.
Hey, maybe that's why he's all wooby and fragile and broken.
On the other hand, it would be awesome to see the Touch and Go Baby from Heroes touch Dean. Hee!
Insta-snark! \0/ And insta-big!brother!Dean!!\0/ And! And! Insta SamnDean!!! \0/\0/\0/

[tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com]

LOL< I don't really want any insta fixes. They took long enough to break it, they better darn well fix it right for once.

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

From your mouth to Kripke's ear...

[tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com]

LOL, I don't know how I just now saw the little wuss in your post.

Not funny.

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

Have I mentioned how much I miss kickass Dean? I mean, seriously, it seems like the only time we get any sort of pissed!off!Dean is when an angel is nearby.
In OtHoaP, Dean says he's tired, and Sam tells him to get angry - and I so wish for him to get angry (at something other than Sam).
This season is seriously lacking in my 3 favorite flavors of Dean: smart!Dean, big!brother!Dean and kickass!Dean. Man, I miss my Dean... *sniffles*

[tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com]

Haha, when Sam told him to get mad, I said "tsk, tsk... Wrath is one of the seven Deadlies, Sammy boy."

I dunno. I like this Dean. I think most of what we're seeing this season is real and not the put on Dean. I actually think he's way more functional than he should be.

I don't want to see that other Dean back until he can be all that for real and not just to hide something else.

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

I think most of what we're seeing this season is real and not the put on Dean. Well, 4.17 is not what I call real Dean. On the other hand, 4.17 never happened so... *shrug*
I think it's interesting that even though Dean's always hiding things, he's the one that can't really keep secrets from Sam, whereas Sam's always kept secrets from Dean. I kinda like that.

[tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com]

LOL. I liked yuppie Dean, but I don't think the point of that episode was about us believing that's the real Dean. I think it was more about saying, no matter how far he ran, he could never outrun who he really is.

I don't even like to talk about Sam and his secrets. Makes me angry with him and I have to remember Dean's a Sam!girl at heart. LOL.

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

Yuppy Dean was funny, but I don't think he was real. It was too set up. ... I think we already had this conversation lol

[mtee.livejournal.com]

Alot of people have said/complained that Dean wasn't scary when he tortured Alistair. I agree, but I don't think he was meant to be scary -- he was DEAD. Dead eyes, dead soul, dead inside.

I thought him to be cold and unfeeling. Scary, no ----- but his eyes were like a sharks -- dead -- no emotion showing.

I think that sums up Dean right now -- there's just nothing left. You can only dump so much on one person.

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

Could be, though I didn't get that impression.
I so want Dean to break a-la Buffy, but since there was 4.17 (which totally didn't happen), I don't suppose I'm gonna get my wish. *sigh*

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

There's a lot of speculation going around that Dean is a fallen angel (a la Anna), and I've gotta say, I'm leaning more toward that explanation than "Dean left part of himself in Hell." There's so much focus on *balance* in the story that I'm figuring, if Sam goes Bad, Dean's going Good. (As in, getting his grace back.)

I could be completely off target on that, but it's what's been on my mind.

[sams1ra.livejournal.com]

Fallen angel, huh?
I've seen people mention this, but I just don't see it.
You're totally right about the balance thing though. Could be...